back and forth. the other larger problem, which was averted to is a willing seminar, the popular vote versus the electoral college. we have had four presidents, maybe even more, but a little history lesson, george w. bush, john quincy adams, benjamin harrison, rutherford b. hayes all lost the popular vote and won the election and the electoral college, decided by the houses of representatives, but to answer your specific question, i mean, we have to make sure -- after 2000, which came down to one state, florida. of course, we all recall all the problems in counting the votes and the physical chads or holes on the ballots. today, when we went to vote, including myself, obviously, we filled out a sheet and we scanned it into a computer -- >> some places.